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Thanks DJP for giving me something else to consider when my family asks me what I want for Christmas. Stefan, I have this fear most likely from reading George Orwell. Snapping to attention whenever the email or error alert sounds is just too much like Winston Smith snapping to attention for the Two Minutes Hate.

Dan, "real computer. You've perfected the dig to almost cryogenic proportions with that one! I jumped in on Logos a few years ago when I was able to purchase the Scholar's Library at a half-off discount. They were offering Southern Seminary students and staff an academic special, and it has been a great resource. Interestingly, I only really discovered some of its vast power recently while preparing a sermon for a preaching class. I took elementary Greek two semesters ago, and I decided to click the exegetical guide.

Holy Bible, Batman! I got more Greek help than I knew what to do with. By the way, I'm not sure how you guys feel about the developer, but RE:Greek shows some promise for online Greek study. Thanks for the post! Todd busted the link in that first post Dan, Great info - I'm a Bibleworks guy for sure myself. It's a great tool, and the language stuff in it is excellent.

How much, if you don't mind me asking, did you drop on Logos? I've been interested in getting the software for the reasons you'd mentioned, but I need to know if I'll need a second mortgage or not.

Speaking of free bible software, Interlinear Scripture Analyzer 2. It's free, so it fills a gap that E-sword doesn't. Dan, No, alas.. It's a conspiracy, I tell you, a conspiracy, with a healthy dollop of discrimination folded in.

I will forever be in mystery over the inebriated man passed out in the post all because I prefer Mac to Windows. I guess we will have to stage a sit-in or Operation Rescue-type demonstration at the homes of Bill Gates and Michael Dell. You can get them for very reasonable prices. Not like An oppressed minority I will remain. I have no desire to take an undergrad course just to learn how to use the cheaper computer and related software.

Besides, I have total confidence that Phil will convert you to Mac in due time. Use one for a month and you'll never go back. As Darth Vader said to the Emperor -- "But. I've been using WordSearch for a long time and it's been really helpful and simple to use. Not a powerhouse like some but it has plenty for my current purposes. Several people have told me about E-Sword lately and I think I may add that too!

BUT I am annoyed that they won't address problems with scriptural text. Specifically, some translations italicize words, and PC Study Bible doesn't always get it right. I haven't noted any actual incorrect words, though.

So I found that I sometimes needed to refer to a printed copy of the Bible while studying on the computer to make sure the italics were right in those cases where it made a difference. I also noted some mistakes in the interlinear Hebrew the wrong Hebrew word for the English word.

I emailed them about these concerns a few years ago. The problems came when they went from version 3 to 4. I don't recall their exact response, but the result was that a fix wouldn't be coming from them. And disappointing. It may be that they fixed these things with version 5. I saw this guy on preteristarchive where I was doing some research on Peter Lange to decide if I wanted to pick up his commentaries on Logos. No one software seems to do it all.

Prepping for Sunday School last week, a little bit came from each resource. As far as Macs go, my kids have enough toys :. Dan, just a quick tip You can cycle through all your related resources with the arrow keys. With a Bible you can go through all your Bibles, with a commentary you can just cycle through all them with one key.

For looking up words, just right-click the word in any language , hover over the "Selected Text That's a quick and easy! Oh, and I absolutely despise QV I keep upgrading it hoping at some point to get a decent interface As someone I know used to say about Windows..

Now now now: 1. No Dan-bashing! If it's the "Dan" I'm thinking of, he's a perfectly nice guy. He's enthused, and he's employed. Can you blame him for Spreading the Logos? Truthstands — I'll try to remember to try that after I get home. I think that, frankly, most of the right-click things I see just puzzle me.

On Mac, you don't have to right click or left click. You just click. One more reason why Mac clicks for me. Haven't downloaded it yet, but what to if I ever use Windows :. Dan, Why are you putting kittens in cups? They look quite uncomfortable. And no, I didn't have time to read the post, although I directed my seminary student husband to look at it in case he was interested. He'll probably be needing some new Bible resources soon.

Logos makes good stuff! Logos is a respectable software, almost a year ago I thought about purchasing it, but it would have been quite an investment. Thanks for the fine review, Dan. I'm right with you on your use of BibleWorks and Logos. Hey, what good is a dual monitor setup except to have one program running on each screen?! I'm also regularly commenting on the two programs at my Biblical Studies and Technological Tools blog.

Most people don't admit that. If you're really tired of QV, be advised that eSword will read Cross format files using its separate Cross module see the eSword toolbar on the right end. I've seen both Bible Works and Logos in action. I would love to have either program, but would rather buy 'non digitized' books for the same price. I know they offer a lot of books in the program, especially Logos, but I naturally push it away for the same reason I don't want Vista ultimate!

I want the program, but I'd rather have books I can access and actually feel like I own without touching a computer. I'd still like Logos, if I can get past paying for it. It is awesome. It's an Italian site, but one of the best for Greek studies and helps. If you know any Spanish, you'll have no trouble accessing the Greek New Testament. And all parsing and lexicons are in English. Dan, Thanks for the link to Stilltruth.

Like you, I start with Bibleworks and then transition to Libronix. I've got the Scholars Gold Library plus all the PBB's plus a plethora of other resources purchased over the years and I really do thank God for such a great resource. Say, tc , though — do you know any way to view that site by most-recently-added files? Or do you just have to look at every blessed file every time, to see if anything's new? Dan, There are two solutions for you. In order to make sure you have all the files available you might want to look into the brand new PBB Updater which was built by gephartr.

I skimmed through the comments, so I might have missed if someone else said this already. But after my church gave me Logos for Christmas a couple of years ago, the first thing I did was to buy the Spurgeon collection. With the Spurgeon collection, whenever I punch in a passage, the search brings up every time Spurgeon preached from that passage, did an exposition on it, or simply read it for the Bible reading before the sermon.

But one thing that you didn't mention as a possible drawback to Logos One could not possibly read all that comes up in one of those searches. Could they? But they sure could try! I used Bibleworks for a few years and it is a very good program for the langauges as far as PCs go.

But I kept coming across comparison articles between Accordance and Bibleworks and saw that Accordaned performed better on different levels. I messed around with a friend's Accordance program and fell in love with it right away. So I switched to a Mac for the very purpose of Accordance and have never looked back.

All I will say is one may want to check out Accordance before investing hundreds or thousands of dollars into BibleWork modules. I know individuals who have switched from Bibleworks to Accordance, but no one switching from Accordance to BibleWorks. My two cents. Knowledgeable, friendly, responsive, top-notch. What do you think us Linux geeks use Actually, I do.

Just an apt-get away for Debian and Debian derived Linuces users. As for the difficulty easily switching between resources, you have to set up the parallel and serial resources. For example if you set your favorite Bible translations as parallel resources, a simple click of the right arrow will switch between translations.

Libronix truly is a heavyweight application, but it can be streamlined to what you do with all the very customizable options. Thanks for the review. I have stopped using BibleWorks and completely switched to Logos. I'm computer stupid. I can admit that and live with it: However, I don't want to Bible-stupid I can't live with that. That being said, I am having a hard time narrowing a search using libronix.

If not, how do you perform a similar function? Dave, What search are you trying to perform, and are you doing it on your whole library, just Bibles, or some other limited search? Hey truth, I'm just searching the theological journals. I am trying to study the various interpreations of Spirit-filling using a historical theology approach.

Thanks for your help! Dave, I see your problem! Maybe what would be best would be to search for particular scriptures that relate, and also find articles are that cover the work of the Spirit. It is possible that someone can talk about a historical understanding without using the word "historical" and simply referenceing the names of the fathers.

In other words I don't think there is one particular search that is going to get you exactly what you want, but you can narrow the field and do a lot of skimming. Sorry I couldn't be of more help! I'm with you, Dave.

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